From Ivor Catt 19sep01

cc Betty Moxon, Home Office.

Atten. Gareth Sweny, on Secretariat of "Sentencing Advisory Panel"

sap-secretariat@beeb.net www.sentencing-advisory-panel.gov.uk

In 1999 I was invited to a Home Office discussion in Leicester on sex offences in the family. At the end, Betty Moxon of the Home Office told me she and the Minister wanted "constructive dialogue". I told her that we needed information on the structure of the Home Office etc., so that we would know whom to approach. She said she would give us that information, but she then failed to do so.

Even before the conference began, I had flagged up the alleged problem of false allegations with Betty Moxon. After the conference, I published in the journal "Ill Eagle" that I edit that nobody among the 50 present had the concept of a false allegation.

It took me six months to extract from of Betty Moxon the statement that no one in Government had as part of their remit the alleged problem of false allegations. See http://www.electromagnetism.demon.co.uk/03072.htm as follows;

"I emphasise the section from the above letter [written on behalf of Moxon] ; "…. there is no specific policy consideration in government being given to the issue of false allegations …." It took me six months to extract this statement from people who invited me to be part of a reference group so that I could contribute to the development of future legislation. Moxon, Tooke's boss, told me she wanted "constructive dialogue", but I had to descend to the level of repeating my single question for about the fourth time in writing, in words of one and two syllables, to extract this vital piece of information." - Ivor Catt, 21 March 2000

"The Tooke letter to me of 7mar00 (copy enclosed) does not address the question, which I will now repeat in words of one and two syllables, except for the word "allegation", where I fail.

1. Who looks at the problem of false allegations? If no one, please say so.

2. If someone, then who? If more than one person or group, then please define one or more key persons or groups." - Ivor Catt 1mar00

Gareth Sweny, Please put an hour into finding out who (if anyone) in government has as part of their remit the consideration of the alleged problem of false allegations. Also, please get from the Sentencing Advisory Panel whom you serve that the alleged problem is false allegations (is or) is not part of their remit.

FBI research on pre-DNA cases found that one third of those in US jails for rape did not match the post hoc DNA tests, so they were definitely not guilty. I calculate the damages faced by the US Govt in a class action for false imprisonment for rape to be of the order of 200,000,000,000 dollars, five times the cost of the Twin Towers disaster. (However, the US govt may have immunity.) I believe that the threat posed to the economic survival of the British government following the equivalent class action is similarly large. Lower sentencing for rape might save the British Government from bankruptcy, so on that basis the length of rape sentencing does come within the remit of the Sentencing Advisory Panel whom you serve. (Europe will not allow immunity to the British Govt, particularly in view of the persistent, irresponsible attitude demonstrated by the British govt in my website at http://www.electromagnetism.demon.co.uk/03072.htm )

Around that time, Melanie Phillips, in her article opposite the Leader in the Sunday Times, wrote that the Home Office was desperate to jail more men, and it didn't care how.

I note that my Chairman Robert Whiston has written a lengthy response to the Sentencing Advisory Panel (SAP), whom you serve, as they requested. The document on which they asked for comment is "Sentencing Guidlines on Rape: Consultation Paper" dated 12sep01, responses to be received by 4dec01. There was no evidence in the paper as to where they came in the structure of government (no author names), and I wasted my time working out that its members did not understand separation of powers between the legislature and the judiciary and were in other ways surprisingly ignorant. However, today, I find from their Annual Report apr00-mar01 which you sent me, that they are not required to have such knowledge. However, it is a matter of concern that I now find that their role is exactly the same as mine, being a member of the Home Office consultative conference in 1999. My organisation ManKind, and our written comments were then ignored by Moxon of the Home Office. So in delivering information to SAP, out Chairman Whiston has taken a step backwards.

Ivor Catt, Editor, "Ill Eagle". 19sep01

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